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October 22

Words ending with -slop

Why are there so many new words, that surged in 2020s, always ended with -slop? That usually happens, after the term, "AI slop" gained in popularity and went mainstream? ~2026-56457-42 (talk) 06:49, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

Probably for the same reason as for -athon signifying an "event or activity lasting a long time or involving a great deal of something"; or -gate for a scandal. See Libfix for a detailed, if rather heavy, explanation. Bazza 7 (talk) 09:15, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

A picture is worth a thousand words. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 12:51, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

Hello new phone wallpaper... •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 22:04, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

The use of slop in the sense of content that is worthless, or produced and consumed mindlessly, is attested in Wiktionary by a citation from 1994:

In a night spent surfing the television “datasphere” (to use another Cyberia buzzword), you can watch slop like Knight Rider 2010 (where virtual reality is a weekly plot point) ..."

So this is not new. What is new is the emergence in Internet slang of -slop as a suffix. This may be related to the increase in volume of worthless content on the Internet.  ​‑‑Lambiam 16:17, 23 October 2026 (UTC)

Slop is a very old word, with many meanings, almost always negative, apparently with roots going back to PIE, where it seems to have meant something like 'slip' or 'slide'. Mirriam-Webster made it a 'word of the year' in 2025. AndyTheGrump (talk) 10:35, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Is -slop the new brainrot? I lost track with the new internet trends since "OK Boomer" was a thing. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 22:23, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

October 28

Please help friend, she want REAL AMERICAN ENGLISH help

Hello, I ask of you, where can somebody who speak Finnish learn real American English, online and personal? I have good friend who is going to USA very soon. But she want to know real good and real American. Is not for me but I need to :) Google translate no help, it is not all American. The Finnish wiki-article no help to, it not say slang and is very very short. She want to say things like «y'all» and «very» and «gonna wanna» but no exist guide or website in Finnish at all. She want real American. Please help. Thank you.

I lucky becuse I speak Spanish and I live in California. Lots of way to improve for me. But if you are in Finland and you want American yourself? You say... fugedaboutit!

Sianliha (talk) 06:39, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

You might ask User:40bus. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 07:05, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Yes I hear of him. He don't know probably. I can ask Pinkrenegaderaider too, she knows American English and she says «y'all» all the time. But I really need is a way for friend to learn it, the real American way. Sianliha (talk) 12:13, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

I believe that was a joke. 40bus makes frequent mistakes and produces non-standard phrases constantly. "Y'all" is Southern American English rather than General American English, by the way. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

I only brought up 40bus because he knows Finnish. Whether he could help the OP is admittedly questionable. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:41, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

«Y'all» is also AAVE and rap-slang to, I know because I know that. Sianliha (talk) 12:28, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

There seems to be significant overlap between SAE and AAVE, I have understood. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 21:09, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Historically Southern (and African American, for obvious overlapping reasons) but I think there's evidence that it's becoming generalized (nationalized?). Some of this is self-conscious, based on objections to the alleged gender-specificity of the most common alternative ("you guys"), but I think some of it is just natural change. It's a useful term and it's catching on. --Trovatore (talk) 17:54, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

And because of the influence of TikTok, YouTube, and social media making AAVE-slang mainstream, and because of the power of viral music like hip hop and country music, I have noticed that Gen Z uses "y'all" than "you guys" or even "you" more than any other word. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 19:06, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Guess who was reading this whole thread the whole time hmmm? ;) •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 21:55, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

The real American way is to be raised here. —Antonissimo (talk) 03:28, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

I see alot of Finnish users here on WP and a good majority of them use British slang like "bloody" and "bollocks" as well as phrases and references only British people would know. And I know alot of Finnish people who could pass for British because they mastered the accent so well. I think OP wants to do what they do but American. Her saying y'all and very like she said is a good start. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 16:01, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

British English is the variety taught in school. In my impression, Finns weren't that good in foreign languages, but maybe I haven't met the right people. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 13:47, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Funny you say this because on WP I see alot of Finnish users who are fluent in many languages, and those who speak English better than British people while using the slang. Me however I had no choice. I wanted to go to Miami for exchange so I ended up learning American English. My mom is Mexican so I know Spanish. Chinese and Esperanto I am just interest in but I know a few phrases, not alot. To be honest I got the American urban accent and American slang down lock but I still try to improve myself in English every day. OP however... •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 14:06, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

I mean, I know Finnish people who speak French and Latin very well though. And alot with flawless perfect British accents as well. Then you take a look at OP and me and you realize that the country is really divided. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 14:10, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

If your friend knows British English, the guide or website does not have to be in Finnish. If she doesn't know any variety of English, no way is she going to be fluent in English very soon, and then no one will care if she peppers her broken English with "y'all" – which many American speakers don't use either.

Which region she'll go to can make a considerable difference for the colloquial language spoken there. If she speaks British English, the major give-away of not being a true-blood Murican will be her pronunciation. Your friend can listen to American sitcoms and try to mimic the casual way the actors speak.

Wikipedia has articles on Comparison of American and British English, American English regional vocabulary and North American English regional phonology.  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:51, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Well she does not know at all. Not British or American. But problem is that all things for help in Finland are in British and not American!!! She need American, real true American. She want to say «y'all» and «very» like I do. I live in California. Lots of people there say «y'all» there. Do you want friend to be true American or do you want her to say «bloody hell in the Queen's arse» in Finland? The choice is clear for her. She watch too many American TV shows and listen to rap but that is no help. The guides is no help. We want TRUE American for her, she want to know the accent of Texas, how to use American slang, how to use «very» and «really» like an American, she want more than just «color» vs. «colour» and all that. And she prefer if she can have real American guide in Finnish. I would love in Spanish for me to. This is hard!!!! Sianliha (talk) 12:20, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

What you are asking for seems impossible. If your friend knows no English, she isn't going to learn enough of the basics of grammar and vocabulary 'very soon', never mind the subtleties of different dialects. Learning spoken language takes immersion, and time, it isn't something you can pick up by reading a website. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:20, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

For foreigners wanting to speak like an average midwestern American, I suggest listening to and singing along to country music. While I find country "music" physically revolting, it is slow enough to understand and the words tend to be actual words you would use in everyday conversations. I've found that it greatly helped Chinese and Japanese students trying to learn better English. I was told that helped tour guides in Norway learn American English as well (but they called it Hollywood English). I suggested it to a Nigerian and he liked it a little, but couldn't handle the music. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 13:30, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Okay thank you. It sounds like a great idea. However my friend like rap alot. She like the AAVE and ebonic style the most in American English. That is why she ask about «y'all» and «very» the most. Does rap help? Sianliha (talk) 14:25, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

It you want to be a joke like Malibu's Most Wanted, then rap is a great choice. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

The OP lapsed into proper English for a moment: "It sounds like a great idea." I wonder how that happened? :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:42, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

HahaHAAAA very funny 😒 Sianliha (talk) 21:45, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Kyllä!. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:54, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Yo bro don't dunk on my homegirl. How would you like it if you were in her shoes? Once upon a time in Dollywood I was. Swear to Jolene. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 21:56, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

At least she didn't say K-Pop. Yuck. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 21:58, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

If the OP's friend is a foreigner, they'd be well advised to stay out of the American South. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:00, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Especially if she looks brown or can pass for Latina. Anyyyway. Tell her to be careful but never stop chasing her dreams. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 22:16, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

Are there Black Finns like the Black Irish? —Antonissimo (talk) 03:26, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

The term Finn is ambiguous; it can refer to ethnicity or to nationality; these do not always coincide. In particular, many Finns are ethnically Sámi, who may not look like your typical paleface European.  ​‑‑Lambiam 08:05, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

Yep. A couple of the rappers are. Turisti and Kerza come to my mind first. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 15:58, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

Exactly as there are certainly no foreigners allowed in the American South, except all those people from Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Haiti... but those are "American" countries. There sure ain't none of them Asians except the millions from China, India, Vietnam... but a few million of them ain't hardly noticeable when there ain't none no Africans except all those from Nigeria, Ghana, Ethiopia, Kenya, South Africa... Iceland. There ain't many people from Iceland in the American South. If someone's from Iceland, they need to stay out or they will surely stand out as a foreigner. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 16:15, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

Meanwhile, there are more Finnish immigrants nowadays in the UK, Scotland, and Canada than in the US, when a century ago, they all came to Minnesota and Michigan. Weird huh? •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 16:49, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

OP is obviously a Trump supporter so she is going to encourage her friend to go to USA anyways, I mean, I would too but I myself look Latina and brown so I would be careful that is all. :) •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 03:05, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Y'all talking to much... but we not find anything??? She need help. I try everything. I give up. Very sad. 😭 Sianliha (talk) 17:12, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

There are various YouTube guides and such, but it sounds that the task would take a lot more time than she has realized... 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 19:42, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

Possibly coincidence, but didn't someone ask a similar question a few months ago? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:39, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

It was probably OP, she seems to be asking alot of questions about this lately. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 03:02, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

But does it matter? Why was it even worth mentioning? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 18:10, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

My thoughts exactly! •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 19:04, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

It looks to me like trolling in fake broken English. If you want to keep feeding it, feel free. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:29, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

I am in no way related to her, thank God lol •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 22:41, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Note that I'm talking about the OP, not you. (Except maybe for the feeding part) 🙂 ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:52, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

If she is still looking for a solution to her problem, just have her friend use Google Translate anyway. Problem solved. Conversation over. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 22:57, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

Similar questions posted months apart: this is what gets your red flags waving? Give us a break, Buggsy. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 02:59, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

So the TLDR here is that OP has a friend who only speaks Finnish but wants to go to USA, but she wants her friend to know that "butter" is pronounced "budder," that "roska" means "garbage," and how to speak in an American accent, but she can't find ANYTHING on this topic in Finnish that explains all this. Just for anybody who did not pay attention the first time around and don't know what she is saying. •PINK RENEGADE RAIDER• (Can we just talk, figure out where we're going?) 20:10, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

"In/At (the) college/university" in American English

If I wish to speak American English, how do I refer to a school where one can study for a degree (e.g. bachelor's or master's degree) and which is not in the US?

My first thought was "college", but the Britannica Dictionary says that colleges are "in the U.S.": https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/college

If so, the only other word I can think of is "university", but I'm not sure whether it's "at university" or "at the univeristy" or "in univeristy" or "in the university" in American English.

Many thanks in advance. ~2026-57812-48 (talk) 22:59, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

A correction re British English, you've missed one of the Britannica Dictionary's definitions: "a separate part of a large British university where students live and take courses" On can certainly take a course for a degree at say Balliol College, part of the University of Oxford. And 'at' is generally the accepted form. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:09, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

It's not really a correction, and it's not helpful whatsover. As the very first sentence of my post says I'm looking for a word for "a school ..." not for "a separate part of a large British university ..." ~2026-57453-78 (talk) 23:20, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

It should also perhaps be noted that London has both University College, London and Imperial College, which are essentially universities in their own right (now merged to some extent), each of which has BA/BScd & MA/MSC degree-level teaching departments (+postgrad). The terminology gets confusing, but regardless, one would study say 'history at UCL' and earn 'a Ba in history from UCL'. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:17, 28 October 2026 (UTC)

For studying (or teaching, or doing research) at/in a specific university, you use "at the ...", where "the ..." is a noun phrase determining the university. For example, "Ulrike attended various universities and then landed at the University of Munster in 1957 on a scholarship for orphans." (Other determiners than "the" can also be used, e.g. as in "Daisy thought no other rural students were at her university)

For being in the segment of one's educational trajectory where one takes university courses, use "in university", without determiner. For example, "While in university, Ingeborg met another woman, Renate Riemeck." This means the same as "while attending university".

The quoted passages are from books by American authors.  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:46, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

"In the U.S."??? So, what are we Canadians? Chopped liver? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:00, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

I use the term "higher education institution" to avoid confusion when talking to my friends across the pond. In both AmE and BrE, a distinction can be made between colleges and universities, but the degree of those distinctions differs (pun not intended, but perfectly descriptive). ~ oklopfer (💬︎) 08:12, 29 October 2026 (UTC)

October 30

Baorisa hieroglyphica

What is this moth called in the languages (besides English) of the parts of the world where it is native? -sche (talk) 02:04, 30 October 2026 (UTC)

This is a primarily nocturnal moth, rarely spotted, whose habitat preference is high up mountain sides. Here and here the moth is called ngengat Picasso in Indonesian, which is a calque of Picasso moth. I would not expect it to have folk names in local vernaculars.

The "artwork" does not remind me of Picasso; Kandinsky moth would have been a better match.  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:59, 30 October 2026 (UTC)

or even Mondrian. —Antonissimo (talk) 01:59, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

November 2

Questions

1. If English word tee is pronounced /tiː/, then how would English speakers pronounce tii?
2. If English word unique is pronounced /jʊnɪk/, then how would /jʊnɪkjuː/ be spelled?
3. Are there any English words where word-final oo is pronunced /ɔː/?
4. Is would + infinitive a mood in English?
5. Does German ever use masculine forms of titles combined with neuter forms of articles, adjectives and adjectival pronouns as gender-neutral forms, such as das Student (compared with der Student and die Studentin)?
6. How would a nonsense word with no meaning be spelled in Japanese? Would it be spelled in katakana?
7. Can a language have a diphthong where the syllabic and non-syllabic component is of the same quality, such as /ii̯/ and /o̯o/?

--40bus (talk) 00:01, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

1. Maybe like "Wii", that is "wee"?

2. Maybe like "uniqueue"? Keeping in mind that "unique" and "queue" both come from French.

3. Do you mean like the "au" in "caught"?

←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:19, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

2. Like a singular queue, instead of two separate? That might work.

3. Well, Bugs, that would depend on the English dialect, hence the usefulness of IPA, but basically Yes. I could imagine some loanword from Japanese, such as 'bakayaroo' or similar slurs, but I couldn't find anything on Wiktionary.

5. Hmm, from what I can see, the option in German is rather to use the synonym Studierender, which is interpreted as gender-neutral despite its masculine gender.

6. I guess. Katakana at least often seems to be used for pseudo-mystical incantations and such in manga, I think. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 03:23, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

Wiktionary gives [o̞ː] for the ⟨ō⟩ in the pronunciation of yarō. That is the Japanese pronunciation; the English realization (if not a spelling pronunciation) will vary, as it does for the pronunciation of the vocative particle "O", but is unlikely to come out as [ɔː].  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:10, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

Now I came to think of Momotaroo and Urashima Taroo as cleaner examples, although the point may still stand. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 17:49, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

Here is a longish discussion (in German) on the use of the term Studierende, which is the plural of both masculine Studierender and feminine Studierende. This advice on using gender-neutral language gives for the plural, next to Studierende also Studentinnen und Studenten, and for the indefinite singular ein(e) Studierende und Studierender (which does not work for me). A gender-neutral dictionary translates Student as Studi; Mitglied der Studierenden, with plural Studierende; Studis.  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:57, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

1. The same.

2. unicue. —Antonissimo (talk) 06:14, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

4. Some grammarians would call this the English conditional mood.

5. The usual German approach to gender equivalence is to use both the masculine and feminine forms, similar to English's Ladies and Gentlemen or Dear Brethren and Sisters. So for "Comrades!", the German address is Genossinnen und Genossen!   ​‑‑Lambiam 07:34, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

5. is per se not possible due to congruence of gender. If the article is neuter, then the noun is neuter, cf. das Band 'ribbon, belt' vs. der Band 'volume of a book', der Schild 'shield' vs. das Schild 'plate, sign' etc. There are even nouns that can have several genders without changing their meaning, e. g. der or das Marzipan 'marzipan'. So if you change the article the gender also changes, cf. der Mensch 'human being' and das Mensch 'negative and regional for woman'. In German there is a difference between "Genus", i. e. the grammatical gender, e. g. "das Mädchen" 'the girl', "das Weib" 'the woman (old-fashioned)', all neuter, and "Sexus", the biological gender, cf. Mark Twain, "The Awful German Language", dealing with this topic for more than a paragraph.--~2026-58296-07 (talk) 15:55, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

Also die Band 'band, group', I believe, likely due to it being feminine in Romance languages. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

I don't see the connection to the Romance languages; an analogy to die Gruppe or die Bande ("gang") seems more plausible to me. Feminine Band is usually pronounced the English way, so the three genders are homographs but not homophones. --Wrongfilter (talk) 08:02, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

Translation please

Could someone please translate the captions on this cartoon? I believe the language is Russian. There is a caption above the cartoon, and one below. I suspect the wording at bottom right also belongs to it. The cartoon shows David Lloyd George hanged by the neck from the Star and crescent, with Constantinople and the Strait below him. Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 15:26, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

A machine translation is as follows. To be honest, I would be surprised if a native Russian speaker could do a better job.

Above the cartoon:

Russian: «Ближне-Восточный узел.»

Translation: "The Near Eastern Knot." (or "The Middle East Knot.")

Below the cartoon:

Russian: «Узел надежный. Крюк крепкий.»

Translation: "The knot is reliable. The hook is sturdy."

--Viennese Waltz 15:34, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

The text at the bottom right discusses some agreement to establish a Russo-German venture. It may belong to the article whose partially visible headline is "... реакции в Германии." ("... reactions in Germany.").  ​‑‑Lambiam 08:21, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

Thank you both. I think the Russo-German venture would have been Russgertorg (mentioned in Otto Wolff). DuncanHill (talk) 16:55, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

The suspended figure must be an older Lloyd George, who is mentioned in the partial text column to the left of the cartoon. —Amble (talk) 17:42, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

Er, yes - that's mentioned in the question. --Viennese Waltz 18:17, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

Good point! But it still may help the OP to look for additional info in the column to the left, which seems to be related to the cartoon, rather than the text below, which belongs to a different article. —Amble (talk) 21:43, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

What's the most common pronunciation of 'Tuesday' in modern RP?

What's the most common pronunciation of 'Tuesday' in modern RP? The former or the latter from these: https://www.oed.com/dictionary/tuesday_n ? Or even different one? ~2026-58381-85 (talk) 22:20, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

I was thinking "TYOOZ-day", and there are some American regions where it's said that way too. But the OED didn't look far enough, as many Americans say it as "TOOZ-day". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:54, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

The 18th edition of Cambridge English Pronouncing Dictionary (2011) gives the coalesced forms first, saying, In words like 'tune' and 'dune', where earlier editions have recommended /tjuːn/ and /djuːn/ for BBC pronunciation, it now seems /tʃuːn/ and /dʒuːn/ are more widely used and these pronunciations are given priority for most such words, with the /tj/ and /dj/ pronunciations as second choice (pp. xviii–xix). Nardog (talk) 23:31, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

I think for RP the first, /ˈtjuːzdeɪ/ TYOOZ-day. I remember teachers in the 80's of last century rather deprecating the /ˈtʃuːzdeɪ/ CHOOZ-day pronunciation, as fit only for a day on which toffee is consumed. I also think you'll find a lot of -dee not -day in the UK, but that's definitely not RP. DuncanHill (talk) 23:49, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

It depends on whether it comes immediately after "Ruby". --Trovatore (talk) 00:01, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

The change from [tj] to [tʃ] is known as yod-coalescence. The difference in articulation is small; I think the actual realizations are not a binary choice but may be thought of as falling on a spectrum.  ​‑‑Lambiam 07:44, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

In my opinion, CHOOZ-day is more typical of Estuary English than RP which is conservative by definition. Alansplodge (talk) 12:52, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

RP can be modern, though ~2026-58950-87 (talk) 23:21, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

This is not exactly on-topic, but it reminds me of the first time I went to the UK and I was wandering around London by myself, somewhere around what they call "The City" but isn't San Francisco, and I wasn't sure how to get somewhere. Someone who may have been a pub owner or some such told me to take the [tʃyːb]. For you respellers that would be something like CHÜÜB with a long drawn-out version of the vowel from German fünf or French une. I made him repeat it a couple of times, but I wasn't making fun of him; I just couldn't figure out what he meant. It finally filtered through to me. --Trovatore (talk) 19:03, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

November 3

Musical note values in Canada

Does English-speaking Canada use British names for musical note values (semibreve, minim, etc.) or American ones (whole note, half note, etc.)? ~2026-58493-72 (talk) 14:46, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

My Royal Conservatory of Music (RCM) Celebrate Theory book uses American note names even though it is a Canadian publication. I do not think it is altered for American audiences. I believe that it is the same book that I would have received if I purchased it in Canada. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 18:52, 3 November 2026 (UTC)

My only significant involvement in music is some piano lessons in my youth, but I've never heard of the British terms until now. I'd be totally shocked if we didn't use American terminology due to our close ties with the giant gorilla to the south. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:36, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

The weirdest thing about the British nomenclature is that a note so long that it takes up two whole measures in most common time signatures has a name that means "short". --Trovatore (talk) 23:58, 4 November 2026 (UTC)

Maybe we could switch, if only to say fuddle duddle to the Orange One. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:40, 4 November 2026 (UTC)